alright i have the orek ironman, it's very powerful, and seems to be the best vacuum i have yet to use for detailing cars. Unfortunately it sucked up water and i have to replace the motor. I decided rather than paying $115 for a new motor, it's time for a upgrade. I am stuck between getting the new ironman for $300 or getting the metro vac n blow ( one autogeek sells) for $200. any input would be helpful.