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Old 06-06-2008, 04:19 PM
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how do you guys apply the CG sealants ? i too have got mseal and jetseal, how long do you guys leave it on before buffing off ? Fminus recommended 12-24 hours then buff for jetseal... what about mseal ? same style I guess ?

i have only tried mseal so far and it was very tough to buff off ? maybe i applied too thick and didn't give it enough time to dry ? hmm... the look didnt really impress me but the slickness and durability from the mseal is definetely up there. but the application and removal...did discourage me a little...
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Old 06-06-2008, 06:21 PM
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No...you can buff off after 30 -45 minutes....even less on a nice hot day....it will take 24 hours to cure properly before a second coat....I believe jest seal may set up faster as said...but I am not buying it...

Mseal is much better than the jetseal....but need to be thin coats...like you can hardly see it on the paint....a nickel size drop should do a fender...prime you applicator with a lite spray of a QD first...then add a nickel drop on the foam..work it in..as you go along you will use less as the pad soaks the sealant up and primed well.....

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A few months ago I got some Jetseal from Fminus and a month ago I applied it on my car after stripping the waxes and sealants which was already on the paint ,but what I did differently from most of you guys was I let the Jetseal cure for 36 hours in my garage ,then buffed it off and the paint looked amazing ,water just roled off it .

It's been a month and a half now the the slickness is still the same so I guess the trick with this sealant is to let it cure for a long time which is not practical but seems to be the only way to have good durability.

I love this sealant and should get more of it.

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A few months ago I got some Jetseal from Fminus and a month ago I applied it on my car after stripping the waxes and sealants which was already on the paint ,but what I did differently from most of you guys was I let the Jetseal cure for 36 hours in my garage ,then buffed it off and the paint looked amazing ,water just roled off it .

It's been a month and a half now the the slickness is still the same so I guess the trick with this sealant is to let it cure for a long time which is not practical but seems to be the only way to have good durability.

I love this sealant and should get more of it.
once the sealant has hazed and dried..whats going to stay on the paint is on....the carriers have dissapated....the polymers have bonded to paint..so even if buffed off after a haze it's still curing....I see no advantage to leave on once the carriers have evaporated ..all thats left is dry residue...the minute you apply a sealant to paint..its bonding....then it cures after the removal of the by products...

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Old 06-06-2008, 07:12 PM
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What you are saying Al makes good sense so the only possibility left is the inconsistency with the production of Jetseal as another member has already mentioned.
The jetseal sample I have was I think from a Gallon container and I remember Phil (Fminus) mentioned that he had two different batches of this product.
What I mean is the sample I have seems to last longer ,BTW I have washed my car at least 5 times so far,I should have asked for a bigger bottle.

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how easy or tough is it to remove after long periods of time when left to haze ? i would imagine it would be hell to remove....hmm i might try half an hour perhaps. might be a better idea to use that time to clean and seal the wheels which might probably take 30 mins to an hour, just nice
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how easy or tough is it to remove after long periods of time when left to haze ? i would imagine it would be hell to remove....hmm i might try half an hour perhaps. might be a better idea to use that time to clean and seal the wheels which might probably take 30 mins to an hour, just nice
its really easy... i left mine for an hour and no problem...
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Old 06-07-2008, 08:16 AM
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how easy or tough is it to remove after long periods of time when left to haze ? i would imagine it would be hell to remove....hmm i might try half an hour perhaps. might be a better idea to use that time to clean and seal the wheels which might probably take 30 mins to an hour, just nice
It was really easy to remove the residue,but I will not do it again ,that was just an experiment knowing it's never a practical way to seal a car I just wanted to find out for myself if longer period would make any significant difference in the outcome oppose to the normal curing time of half an hour .
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Old 06-07-2008, 04:15 PM
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Hi Guy's

I started a detail today with CG RocketPolish/vertua-bond408/SpeedArmor357

So far , I have polished the whole vehicle with Rocket polish and just tested the Vertuabond408 and 2 x Speedarmour357 on the bonnet/hood.

The rocket polish, in ability, was a lot like 3M Ultra Fina i.e a bit of cut but more a gloss refining finish. It didn't dust at all, but felt dry (or un-oily) in use, to give an indication of un-oily, i only used 1 MF to buff off the polish reidue for the whole car.

It took me a few sets to get used to it, but it worked fine when i got used to it. I also did a test patch with ultra fina and this may have been a little more glossy but the correction and finish was very similar. I always liken the Ultra Fina finish to Megs 106FF/A.

I shall finish the detail tomorrow and post it up but an interesting detail for me so far.

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Old 06-07-2008, 09:01 PM
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whats your opinion on the vertuabond and speedarmour ?
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