[budman3]

I honestly don't know all of the facts but he is at least partnered with them ... When Autopia people bought their share of 4* if you remember back then 4* disappeared from the shevles of many suppliers. At the time it was confusing but now it's apparent somehow Autopia caused some type of conflict with suppliers at that time.

[Cooter]

I really want some of the new Opt APC!!!!

	APC All Purpose Cleaner

[JohnyB]

Thnx for the info budman3.

[HAN]

speaking of new products releasing, check out Wolfgangs "Fuzion" wax, 175.00 for it and it comes with a refill:

Wolfgang Füzion Carnauba Polymer Concours Wax

[Dream Machines]

Rick Vaal still owns 4 Star, David was just the new distributor for them. Wasn't good as prices doubled almost overnight (trade price)

Now that David doesn't distribute it, I can get direct from Rick once I have enough funds to buy some cases of product

Wouldn't surprise me if Rick Made Polycharger
I won't be buying any of those newly released products, absolutely no need for those.

[budman3]

Originally Posted by HAN

speaking of new products releasing, check out Wolfgangs "Fuzion" wax, 175.00 for it and it comes with a refill:

Wolfgang Füzion Carnauba Polymer Concours Wax

Wow, that sounds like a great wax. Kind of sounds like Collinite durability with Souveran looks... sweet!

[P1et]

Originally Posted by budman3

Wow, that sounds like a great wax. Kind of sounds like Collinite durability with Souveran looks... sweet!

This is just plain laughable :

"The wood is stained a warm honey tone to accentuate the wood grain and affixed with sophisticated bronze hinges and a latch. Each case is then branded with the Wolfgang logo. This elegantly crafted box is lined in foam to protect the wax during transport and storage.

The Wolfgang signature case can be used for personal storage as well. Remove the foam liner to use the box to store watches, cufflinks, and mementos. The fine wood grain and excellent craftsmanship make the Wolfgang Füzion case an attractive and functional addition to a desk, dresser, or workstation."

[devast8]

It would be nice to have the option to buy it without the box

I'm Canadian so I can just go to the local wood shop, buy some pine and stain it for 10$ lol

[P1et]

Originally Posted by devast8

It would be nice to have the option to buy it without the box

I'm Canadian so I can just go to the local wood shop, buy some pine and stain it for 10$ lol

People are really going overboard with all this wax packaging crap. No, hold on, is that wax just in a regular plastic tub? I AM NOT BUYIN IT! It better be in a hand-blown glass pot, made by Waterford's CEO. Otherwise, the wax is WORTHLESS!!!

[budman3]

Box or not, who cares. If the wax is that much better than Souveran or of the other competitors at the same price points then it is worth it. Only time will tell b/c you can't judge a book by its cover.