[Truls]

OK, after 2 days searching the nett, i only end up with more Qs than answers...

Putting on 3 layers off the Victoria Concurso wax on the EVO...

Can Carnauba wax (without cleaners) be layerd?

I find two answers to this....yes AND no..so i get kinda confused...

-some say that the the next application/layer of carnauba wax will just blend with the old previous layer off wax (nomatther when you do it)

-some sugest spitshine (cold water before applying the next layer)

-some say carnauba wax needs to "cure/sweat" for 24 houers, others say you can apply right after you buff off the last layer.

So....is there any point applying more than 2 coats of carnauba wax on the car...usualy it doesnt have cleaners in it, but as many knows "same cleans same" or whatever that was in English....

Help?

[02CAMSS]

I usually spitshine and wait about 2 hours in-between layers and I have had no problems.Victoria is a nice wax to layer.(just my 2 cents).

[Nica]

Truls it all depends on the wax your using. I mean if your using one of Zymol's high end wax then yes you have to wait 24hs for the wax to cure/sweat but that's just Zymol. For Victoria I would have to agree with 02CAMSS just wait a two hours or a bit more and you should be good to go with Vitctoria that is....but I have to admit I don't do the spitshine...oh and yes Victoria is one of those wax's that look incredable good layerd...but just my opinion...hope this helps.

[Truls]

OK, thanks guys..

Yepp layer victoria wax looks great...jost did the last wipedown now and it looks glossyer than ever......

[Nica]

Originally Posted by Truls

OK, thanks guys..

Yepp layer victoria wax looks great...jost did the last wipedown now and it looks glossyer than ever......

Nice...so um...where are the pictures

[Truls]

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[Calgarydetail]

carlos you lied... you do not need to let zymol waxes sweat for 24 hours.I have contacted zymol in the past... you need to let the oils sweat out for a few hours (3-4) and then level the wax with either cold water of field glaze, from there you can apply a second coat.

There are acouple schools of thought on layering waxes, some say you cannot, there is no way the oils and solvetns in the new level will discolve the previous level

there is also the school of though that each layer adds more, both in protection and looks. you can throw as many layers on and each will do something

There is also the school of though that you an layer them, he protection added is little to none however the look of the wax impoves with each coat.

I personaly feel there is a very sharp dimishing return as far as protection with the wax, you will let some extra protection with ach layer however the main reaso for layering multiple coats is for the looks, the ptical range changes with each coat.. its really cool to watch

anyone who has tried multiple coats of vintage will understand this addition of looks very well. I think vintage shows it best.



so back to VW (which i love btw), you an add multiple coats no problem, i would follow the same idea as with zymol. Let the wax sweat (although VW dosent look like buffertrails when sweating it will still sweat), give the car a quick spray down with VW quick detailer acouple hours later and you should be good to add another coat.

[Truls]

Did a wipedown with cold water between the layers, and it seems to look great that way..

thhanks for making it more clear to me...learning something new everyday...

[matrix_808]

hey Calgary, so how to you use Vintage? Do you do the initial buff 3-4 hours later after applying?

[Nica]

Originally Posted by Calgarydetail

carlos you lied... you do not need to let zymol waxes sweat for 24 hours.I have contacted zymol in the past... you need to let the oils sweat out for a few hours (3-4) and then level the wax with either cold water of field glaze, from there you can apply a second coat.

There are acouple schools of thought on layering waxes, some say you cannot, there is no way the oils and solvetns in the new level will discolve the previous level

there is also the school of though that each layer adds more, both in protection and looks. you can throw as many layers on and each will do something

There is also the school of though that you an layer them, he protection added is little to none however the look of the wax impoves with each coat.

I personaly feel there is a very sharp dimishing return as far as protection with the wax, you will let some extra protection with ach layer however the main reaso for layering multiple coats is for the looks, the ptical range changes with each coat.. its really cool to watch

anyone who has tried multiple coats of vintage will understand this addition of looks very well. I think vintage shows it best.



so back to VW (which i love btw), you an add multiple coats no problem, i would follow the same idea as with zymol. Let the wax sweat (although VW dosent look like buffertrails when sweating it will still sweat), give the car a quick spray down with VW quick detailer acouple hours later and you should be good to add another coat.

Yea, well see I've applied Vintage many ways from no curing time, to back to back layers and then applying one coat and waiting the Zymol recomended 3 to 4hrs to applying other coats after 24hrs and to me applying a second or third or fourth coat of Vintage sworks best after 24hrs. Now the one thing I don't do when layering Vintage is give it the Field Glaze wipe down, I do the Field Glaze once I'm done with the second coat....what I mean is that if I'm going to apply two coats of Vintage then on the second coat I do the Field Glaze. On the first coat I just wipe, let it sit for 24hrs and then wipe it down and then apply the second coat, this method has worked reallywell for me and I prefer it...but like I said that's how I like to do it...oh and only my vehicles have ever received two coats of Vintage.