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Old 10-02-2008, 05:48 PM
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Is claying always necessary?

For example, if the vehicle in question has lots of swirls/ waterspots/ etc, and I plan to use a polish like PowerGloss or SIP, would I really have to clay the paint?

I do understand that if I always do, the polishes will work better to correct the flaws without having to remove the surface contaminents.

So, what say you?
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Is claying always necessary?

For example, if the vehicle in question has lots of swirls/ waterspots/ etc, and I plan to use a polish like PowerGloss or SIP, would I really have to clay the paint?

I do understand that if I always do, the polishes will work better to correct the flaws without having to remove the surface contaminents.

So, what say you?
I would like to know the same thing, So, what say you?
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The thing I always thought about claying before polishing is that it lessens the risk of the pad picking up those contaminants and smearing it all over the paint.

Also, I've noticed that the pad becomes black when I polished once without claying. That was enough to make me do it every single time
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Depends on the paint contamination. If there is contamination, ie rail dust ect, than yes you should. Feel the paint, if its smooth without anything snagging you mf, you should be good to go. There are other things to look for as well, tar, road paint and bug guts are thing that come off nicely with clay. Nothing wrse than swirling around a bunch of tar on the finish. So in short, is it always necessary, no. You should however rid the paint of contaminants before spending you time buffing. Its like an IPA wipe down, do you need to do it, if you want perfection yes. Less than perfeciton, not really, you can use a QD but you never no how good the correction is going to be.
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The clay picks up debris out of the paint compounds/polishes will not. If you do not use a clay before polishing it does take alot longer and the paint never feels as smooth as it should. It also helps your paint to glide over the surface alot easier which in turn will provide you with a much better finish.
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the polishing and compounding will break up the debre but in some cases it can make it worse.. one time when i didn't wlay it was easy to see the particle smearing the polish.. or smearing whatever the particle is made out of leaving a line with the polish.,. those particles from what i understand aren't uniform and can make swirls and such in the paint when polishing depending on how bad it is and in a few thousand miles you would be surprised to see what your clear coat can hold on to.. keep in mind i am not a pro by any means but that is what i have noticed personally and what i hear from others.
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I really hate buying clay it's such a rip off. I wish someone instead of making wax would make clay.
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Try looking into that rubber clay. You know, that sponge with a rubber side type of thing. That might be cheaper, iono since I haven't tried it yet
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I really hate buying clay it's such a rip off. I wish someone instead of making wax would make clay.
how are they a rip off? because of the price i guess..right? try megs clay kit.. it's not the best but it's cheap (at walmart anyways) $14 and it does the does the job well.
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Try looking into that rubber clay. You know, that sponge with a rubber side type of thing. That might be cheaper, iono since I haven't tried it yet
yes, I know what you mean. I saw it once and it was 2 for like 12 bucks and on back order. Whadia know. autodetailingsolutions.com Thanks
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