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Old 06-14-2008, 02:10 AM
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Im sure there was still a lot to be had even though you didnt leave holograms?
I checked the whole car after a prep-sol wipedown using a few different lighting sources as well as sunlight. There weren't any holograms.

It led me to believe that at least on really light colors like silver, pewter, or possibly white, that it would be possible to use this as a one step polish. In order to do this though, I would imagine it would require a few very clean pads and a really solid technique in order to avoid hologramming the surface.

Still...it doesn't take too long to go over the whole car with something like Ultrafina well enough to remove the holograms that are possibly left by the 105.

I was talking to another detailer today and he suggested that if you are only doing a one step polish, you could simply use a Flex and either SIP or 105. The Flex' motion doesn't allow it to leave holograms, even with a harsh polish like SIP or 105, and it would only be a slight decrease in corrective ability to change from the rotary to the Flex.
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Old 06-14-2008, 10:53 AM
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I would really like to know how you use the rotary and achieve no holograms. I know how and do it all the time, just want to hear you process. As far is getting M105 lsp ready without holograms I find far fetched, and also M105 does need to be gone over with a finishing polish to bring the paint to its best finish. I see alot of your info and some of it is good but alot I would have to question.
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Old 06-14-2008, 11:03 AM
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It led me to believe that at least on really light colors like silver, pewter, or possibly white, that it would be possible to use this as a one step polish. In order to do this though, I would imagine it would require a few very clean pads and a really solid technique in order to avoid hologramming the surface.
Are you saying you could do 105 as a one step on light colors because it doesnt leave holograms on light colors?

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I was talking to another detailer today and he suggested that if you are only doing a one step polish, you could simply use a Flex and either SIP or 105. The Flex' motion doesn't allow it to leave holograms, even with a harsh polish like SIP or 105, and it would only be a slight decrease in corrective ability to change from the rotary to the Flex.
If a customer will only pay you for a 1 step, then I understand, but I dont think Id use 105, SIP would be a better choice because theres less chance of holograms, buffer marks, and it finishes better.
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I think that if a car isn't going to be perfect anyways M105 *could* be used as a one step.

A few weeks ago I detailed a pilot that was literally scoured.


The truck was an 04 so doing a bunch of passes over those scratches wasnt a good idea, not to mention it was a honda.

M105 has a place in my line up of polishes, but for car that you want to be 100% perfect, then you should pass over it with lighter polishes.
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Old 06-15-2008, 10:46 AM
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I have found that 106FF will take care of just about anything with the green or orange CCS pads. I think its highly under rated as far as cutting ability. For tougher jobs, SIP with green or orange then finish with PO85RD.
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Old 06-15-2008, 10:57 AM
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Thanks for all the input guys. For some reason I thought SIP was more aggressive, I'll have to try it out on some white pads.
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Old 06-15-2008, 11:00 AM
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I have found that 106FF will take care of just about anything with the green or orange CCS pads. I think its highly under rated as far as cutting ability. For tougher jobs, SIP with green or orange then finish with PO85RD.
106FF has very little cut and is a finishing polish, not to be used for correction. Go over the paint with 106ff and an orange pad, then wipe it down with prep sol. I think you'll change your mind then.
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Old 06-15-2008, 06:50 PM
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106FF has very little cut and is a finishing polish, not to be used for correction. Go over the paint with 106ff and an orange pad, then wipe it down with prep sol. I think you'll change your mind then.
I realize that 106FF is sold as a finishing polish and according to Menzerna only has a cut of 1.5 but by playing around with different pads and speeds ( I use a Makita) I think you would be surprised at what you can accomplish with this gem. I by no means meant that you can do full correction with 106FF, but if you are faced with a job that may be the result of poor washing techniques, 106FF will do the job quite easily and leave you with a nicer finish than SIP. My apologies if I misled anyone.
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Old 06-15-2008, 07:23 PM
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Also you need to add if you are going to use it in a clean up type situation it should be used with a finishing pad, blue or black.
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