[Peugeot]

So I'm busy detailing this week. A fair amount of paint correction. What I'm finding is that 106FF is hard to take off.

IP comes off very easy as does SIP.

But 106FF is another story.

I've been resorting to a ISA 50/50 to get it off. I work it with a LC white pad/PC. Hasn't gone sideways on me yet. Never skips. Seems to do it's job fine. Am I working it too much? I try to take it easy. However if it dries out to any degree it's murder to take off. I can get anywhere from 80-95% off fairly easily with a MF, but the last of it is like bonded to the surface. Anybody have this issue?

I've searched around and nobody else has seemed to mention this. Either I'm a candy-ass and can't take the physical demands of detailing (I'm on car 4, day 6 ) or I'm not doing things as they should be done.

Ans is using ISA OK? Better technique?

Thanks!

Koll

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[wytstang]

I haven't read of this issue myself. I do have some just haven't used it yet, I'll find out this weekend when I "jewel" the paint. Do you condition the pad before and during application?

[gmblack3]

Sounds like you are using too much. What is the temp and humidity you are working in?

[P1et]

I have had those issues with SIP myself. What I find is that if the humidity is over 80%, then the SIP starts gumming up and it start throwing little bits of gummed up polish over the paint. When those gummed up bits get caught in the area you're polishing, I find that it almost grinds them into the paint again. And you're right, wiping that stuff off is a PAIN in the ARSE.

I had to resort to using just the littlest amount of polish possible and working it longer to make it bearable.

[Asphalt Rocket]

I agree with GM, it sounds like you are using too much. You only need to prime the pad with the product itself, nothing else.

[richy]

The thing I do is remove it with a dampened mf..I don't have problems doing that.

[togwt]

These polishes were designed to work with high speed rotary polisher’s, utilizing friction to break-down the diminishing abrasives, while in the controlled temperature / humidity environment (working temp range 60 – 800F (15-260C) of a vehicle manufacturer’s paint shop finishing line.

Oil cannot hide defects, but it can actually enhance them, Menzerna uses an oil in water emulsion for lubrication (white mineral oil and glycerine) as a medium to suspend the abrasives in and to reduce the heat generated from polishing; evenly spread the polish at a low rpm over the whole panel until the oils spread.

Ensure a uniform even coat, so when you do work the polish in at higher speeds, the abrasives and oil lubrication work in tandem, if you are using a polymer after polishing it will be necessary to wipe-down the paint surface with Menzerna Top inspection, DuPont® Prep-Sol® 3919S™ is a slow evaporating cleaning solvent, but do not allow to dry on paint surface or Isopropyl alcohol (IPA) A surface wipe-down is considered good practice after polishing

[Peugeot]

I'm using @ 70 degrees. Primed with water and spin dry. No issues with gumming or slinging or anything on the application side. It's just when it flashes (much harder to tell opposed to SIP), it's very hard to physically remove the polish with a MF. The drier it is (sometimes it'll haze around the edges) the harder it is to take up.

As a result, I've resorted to IPA to get the rest of it up.

[Nica]

Originally Posted by Peugeot

I'm using @ 70 degrees. Primed with water and spin dry. No issues with gumming or slinging or anything on the application side. It's just when it flashes (much harder to tell opposed to SIP), it's very hard to physically remove the polish with a MF. The drier it is (sometimes it'll haze around the edges) the harder it is to take up.

As a result, I've resorted to IPA to get the rest of it up.

yes, I've experianced the same with Menzerna. Sometimes no matter which product I use I get the same results, this happens mostly during winter though.

I do the same IPA and lots of elbow grease, the thing that bugs me is that if you have a soft clear coat vehicle it almost makes you work twice becuase I've some times induced micro marring during the IPA wipe down

[Peugeot]

Originally Posted by Nica

yes, I've experianced the same with Menzerna. Sometimes no matter which product I use I get the same results, this happens mostly during winter though.

Funny thing is, this is not an issue with PG or SIP. They come up easily. Only the nano busts my nuggets. Gets so I kindda dread using it. Hope someone spots an error I'm making as I'm 1/2 way through with SIP and the 106 is next...

Oh yeah, relative humidity is -eh- probably around 70%. Typical Seattle stuff. Like I said, application is great. It's just the removal.