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Old 08-23-2008, 11:55 AM
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106FF doesn't have enough cut to remove heavy swirling. It is after all a finishing polish. I would pick up some SIP to add to your arsenal.
Try 106FF on green or white first. If that doesn't work, SIP on green or white. If that works, I would then finish with 85RD on blue or black. If not. SIP on orange, then 106FF on Green or white to remove any hologramming and then finish with 85RD on blue or black. I always use green instead of white. The green pads were made specifically to work with Menz polishes. They have 20% more cut and finish down better. It seems like alot of work but doing it properly is alot of work and the results are worth it.
The green pads that are made to work with Menz are the german green pads. There are LC Green and LC "German" Green. I think you can only find the "German" ones at CMA.

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were is the best place to pick up some blue/green and black 5.5 inch pad's? And the cheapest place to purchase SIP and the 85rd? Any ideas? Also my vehicle is in damn good shape so im thinking i could eliminate the 106ff totally and go with the Sip on a green pad then finish off with the 85rd on a black pad how does that sound? or should i be finishing with a blue pad?
Assuming you are in the U.S. Hit up Detailers Domain, He has everything you want + more, and he's having a 20% off sale for labor day. If not
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The green pads that are made to work with Menz are the german green pads. There are LC Green and LC "German" Green. I think you can only find the "German" ones at CMA.

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So ill be fine using the SIP on a white pad and finishing with the 85rd on a black pad?
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So ill be fine using the SIP on a white pad and finishing with the 85rd on a black pad?
I don't see why not. Pads really don't care what you use them with but it can be about finding the right combination of pad and product.

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When trying to polish your car try to start with the least abrasive product and pad combination you think will work.

If you think a white pad and SIP will work, give it a go. If it's not doing the job step it up to an orange pad and SIP.
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I don't see why not. Pads really don't care what you use them with but it can be about finding the right combination of pad and product.

Remember this:

When trying to polish your car try to start with the least abrasive product and pad combination you think will work.

If you think a white pad and SIP will work, give it a go. If it's not doing the job step it up to an orange pad and SIP.
Yeah, and if you're not getting enough working time out of the SIP, try mixing in a few drops of 106 or 85RD. Not too much, or it'll reduce the SIP's cut.

Where I'm at, it's so hot and dry that SIP is pretty much unusable without adding some 106 to it. It dries/flashes in less than 30 seconds. SIP will leave a very nice finish if you can get enough working time out of it to properly break it down. It can leave some mild swirls and compounding haze on softer clears if it's not broken down well enough.

Hmm.. mixing products to achieve better results... whodathunkit, and why do I have this sudden craving for chocolate milk??
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Hmm.. mixing products to achieve better results... whodathunkit, and why do I have this sudden craving for chocolate milk??
Sure does taste good! Dang I think I ran out of cocoa powder after making that tutorial.

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Yeah, and if you're not getting enough working time out of the SIP, try mixing in a few drops of 106 or 85RD. Not too much, or it'll reduce the SIP's cut.

Where I'm at, it's so hot and dry that SIP is pretty much unusable without adding some 106 to it. It dries/flashes in less than 30 seconds. SIP will leave a very nice finish if you can get enough working time out of it to properly break it down. It can leave some mild swirls and compounding haze on softer clears if it's not broken down well enough.

Hmm.. mixing products to achieve better results... whodathunkit, and why do I have this sudden craving for chocolate milk??
Thats interesting. Ive used SIP in 90*+ temps without any issues.
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Thats interesting. Ive used SIP in 90*+ temps without any issues.
I agree. The black GTi I recently posted was done with SIP on a day where the temp IN my friends shop was 32 celcius.
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I agree. The black GTi I recently posted was done with SIP on a day where the temp IN my friends shop was 32 celcius.
Same here, never had an issue either, I guess it is all in your technique.
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Thats interesting. Ive used SIP in 90*+ temps without any issues.

+1 Although I have very high humidity here.
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