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Polishing Preparation is one of the most important steps to achieve a flawless finish, if you have any questions about how to properly polish a vehicle or would like to share tips on how to polish post here.

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Old 04-15-2008, 08:37 PM
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I am always happy to help others who don't yet have some equipment. Helping others is what these forums are all about IMO.
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Thanks for the info Nica. I remember 3-4 years ago someone from Meguiar's or who used Meg's products did a comparison on a junk hood and took readings before and after. But that was years ago and it seems PTGs are more popular now and I was just curious if hard clears = more clear removed or soft = more clear removed, things like that.
That's a good point there budman3, that is a very interesting question you got..... man I wish I took after readings on that MDX we did that clear coat was extremely soft but that is a very good question, thanks for sharing.

And yes, I agree with gmblack3 forums are meant to help others or provide feed back on tools that others don't have but are considering to purchase, you know to make a better educated purchase. I don't understand the hostility here So lets not turn this in to a bashing post as I think the question is a very good question
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Nica, I am all about helping and keeping the peace, but for someone to ask questions about equipment and then spouts off about knowing so much on other forums you would think they would have all the equipment to back up all this so called knowledge. Thats all I was getting at. Its easy to weed out who really should be helped and then there are those on here for other reasons, was just trying to point that out.

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That's a good point there budman3, that is a very interesting question you got..... man I wish I took after readings on that MDX we did that clear coat was extremely soft but that is a very good question, thanks for sharing.

And yes, I agree with gmblack3 forums are meant to help others or provide feed back on tools that others don't have but are considering to purchase, you know to make a better educated purchase. I don't understand the hostility here So lets not turn this in to a bashing post as I think the question is a very good question
It would be fairly hard to get 100% accurate readings to see if there are any differences with the amount of clear removed from both soft and hard paints. I think the only way to tell is to do the exact same process on both types of vehicles. However, the results would be very interesting.

And to add to the original question about taking readings after, have you ever noticed a spot which you removed too much paint? Or do the amounts of clear removed stay fairly constant around the whole vehicle -- ie once you know the baseline clear, you can decide how aggressive you can go and be confident that you will not remove too much clear following your normal polishing routines.
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It would be fairly hard to get 100% accurate readings to see if there are any differences with the amount of clear removed from both soft and hard paints. I think the only way to tell is to do the exact same process on both types of vehicles. However, the results would be very interesting.

And to add to the original question about taking readings after, have you ever noticed a spot which you removed too much paint? Or do the amounts of clear removed stay fairly constant around the whole vehicle -- ie once you know the baseline clear, you can decide how aggressive you can go and be confident that you will not remove too much clear following your normal polishing routines.
Well the point of a paint gauge is to to show all the flaw's in the paint this includes low and high spots, the graph is great for showing these low and high spots. I've noticed that once I take the readins after the polish that there aren't too many high spots..there still are a few becuase I don't isolate the high spots from the clear coat..meaning I don't mark the high spots that I find and insure I level them off...this is something that I'll start doing now that I have all my paint gauges, it's a bit time consuming but if you truly want perfection you have to level off the high spots to give it an even area...I learned this from Paul Dalton him self.

But even though I don't mark the high spots I do make a note of the low spots, that is a must because I adjust the polishin process based on the amount of clear that is available...like that yellow Z06 we could polish becuase it hardly had any clear coat left.
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Thanks for the help again Nica. I never really understood the graphs because you take so many readings the high points would be impossible to distinguish without marking them right on the car after you took the reading. Unless the graphs are used in a different way -- do you take sinle line readings on the panel or do you use some type of grid system?
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Do you guys take paint readings during and after the details?? Or do you just get a baseline reading before and then dive into polishing? A lot of the pictures that I see of thickness readings are of the paint before but none after polishing. It'd be interesting to see the differences in thickness before and after polishing on a variety of vehicles.


How much paint are you removing. - Car Care Forums: Meguiar's Online


How much material (paint) is removed by the various processes of finish care that we perform on our vehicles in our endeavour for that brilliant shine.

To demonstrate how much material is removed I acquired a damaged MBZ hood from a body shop that to the best of my knowledge still wears the original factory applied two stage black base / clear coat finish.
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