[trhland]

im trying to figure out what this means. swissvax for example. pauls new wax is going to have some thing like 70 something percent carnauba by volume does that mean70 percent is carnauba is wax and 30 percent is the oils ect?

[TexasTB]

I thought that question a while ago, but never really gave it much thought. I would say yes, you are correct. 70 something percent carnauba and the rest "other stuff". I am not 100% sure, so someone correct me if I am wrong.....

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[jshillin]

That usually means that 70% of the wax is carnauba and other types of wax such as beeswax makes up the rest. They don't tell you how much of the total product is wax...

[eShine]

Basically ignore any claims manufacturers make because they are all tailored to marketing.

[Al-53]

Originally Posted by jshillin

That usually means that 70% of the wax is carnauba and other types of wax such as beeswax makes up the rest. They don't tell you how much of the total product is wax...

exactly...its just that 70% of the wax in the formula is carnuba...now total content of the wax in the product may only be 30-40% but 70% of that is carnuba....

you have montan wax..

citrus wax..

beeswax

cinefolia wax (sp)

these make up the other 30% of waxes in the formula

[Pooter]

Caranuba wax Type 1 is hard as a rock, if 70% of the canister was type 1 caranuba you would have to put it on like a stick of deodorant. By itself it has a melting point of 170 F. The other waxes are a necessity in order to get the wax soft enough to put on a car. The reason that they specify the amount of the Type one White (No such thing actually, it is actually a light yellow or tan) is to specify how protective the wax is, of course the higher the content the higher the protection. Thats what make Zymol Royale stand out from the crowd. Until Paul's wax releases it is the highest Type1 Caranuba wax there is. When Paul's wax releases it will have the same Type1 content as zymol royale, or at least it supposed to.

Hehe I know that cause I had the same question and did a crap load of research on it. Thought I would post what I found.

[ggk]

Originally Posted by Pooter

Caranuba wax Type 1 is hard as a rock, if 70% of the canister was type 1 caranuba you would have to put it on like a stick of deodorant. By itself it has a melting point of 170 F. The other waxes are a necessity in order to get the wax soft enough to put on a car. The reason that they specify the amount of the Type one White (No such thing actually, it is actually a light yellow or tan) is to specify how protective the wax is, of course the higher the content the higher the protection. Thats what make Zymol Royale stand out from the crowd. Until Paul's wax releases it is the highest Type1 Caranuba wax there is. When Paul's wax releases it will have the same Type1 content as zymol royale, or at least it supposed to.

Hehe I know that cause I had the same question and did a crap load of research on it. Thought I would post what I found.

there is white caranuba, but it is not natural it requires bleaching and a couple other refining methods. but it will be a perfect white.

upper 30s is the highest you can have of wax by volume. or it is a rock!

[Rubbish Boy]

Measuring by volume is a way of making your wax look like it has a lot more carnauba than it really does. As others have already said some manfacturers use this to mean that it is the percentage of the wax content, rather than total product, which is carnauba. Others may say it means something else.

One problem is we don't know if they all measure the same way and use the same criteria. When is the wax measured? when it is in it's raw solid state, when it's in flake form, when it's powdered, when it's hot, when it's cold. It's weight will remain constant throughout, but it's volume will change depending on what state it's in.

If you were to take 70g of raw carnauba flakes and melt it and then add 30g of solvent, then let it cool, you would be left with of a brick of wax that was so hard you would never be able to apply it. Even warming in your hands first won't get that going. But you will have nera enough 100g of wax and a true 70% carnauba.

If you were to take 70ml of raw carnauba flakes and melt it and then add 30ml of solvent, then let it cool, you will most likely have a wax that was soft enough to do something with. You still wouldn't want to use it though as it it will need some oils and stuff to help it spread and give you the desired look. But the bigger point is you will not be left with either 100g of wax or 100ml of wax so you don;t have a true 70% carnauba, like the first example.

[trhland]

so pauls wax says its a staggering 76 percent pure carnuba wax. we really dont know what swissvax means by that. now does it have more then souveran? souveran i heard has like 30 percent. crap im so confused.

[agentf1]

Mostly marketing. It could be 70% carnuaba and 30% Bees Wax but those two may only be 20% of total content. I say the best way to judge a wax is to use it and see how it looks and what type of durability it delivers.
xFor example P21 has a new wax that is 100% carnuaba but who is to say what percentage of the total product is carnuaba. You can't go by the numbers IMHO.