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Old 03-27-2008, 11:43 PM
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Default Experiment: SV Smaragd vs Z Concours

Alright.... so hopefullly people find this useful. I know I will.

I prepared a test of Swissvax Smaragd versus Zymol Concours. My goal is appearance and durability. My car is a daily driver. Its outside all day and sleeps in the garage at night.

I prepared the hood of my '01.5 Audi S4 in Silver as follows:
Adams Car Wash
Swissvax Paint Rubber with Adams QD as lube.
Menz IP with LC CCS green on the Flex at speed 5
Menz PO85rd with LC CCS white on the Flex at speed 5
Menz Top Inspection
Lots of CG / old Adams Microfibers
Sam Adams Irish Ale



After some correction and polishing, I split the hood in two with tape.



SV Cleaner Fluid went on with a german applicator and then two coats of SV Smaragd by hand. Each coat was allowed to dwell for 10 mins. (Drivers Side)



Zymol HD cleanse went on with a seperate german applicator and two coats of Concours by hand. Each coat was wiped off immediately. (Passenger Side)



The area under the tape is used as a control, and will be left untreated.



Future washes will be with Adams Car wash and Adams QD. I will update after every wash with time and special details.

Initial impressions... Well, I finished at 10pm so my light was not good. I will say that the Zymol washed off my hands considerably easier than the SV did. Oh, and I don't like the smell of the cinamon zymol. Appearance? Uh yea, well, it all looked the same in my dark garage.

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itll be hard to tell from the pics, but would like to know your thought on these waxes once you get some sun on the car and test durability
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I will report back tomorrow morning. I'll give the hood a final wipe with a clean MF, and check it out in the sun. I've got a couple people lined up to get their opinion on which side looks better.

If theres a diference, I'm not expecting to capture it by camera.

I AM hoping to catch beading pictures in the upcomming weeks though.
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sounds good I just did a wash of my accord with concours and was very impressed with beading and slickness. It was only one wash but it was much better than I expected

I used concorso on a vette that i will be seeing soon. Very interested on how it looks/washes
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As above, in picture its going to be nigh on impossible to see any difference, especially on silver! But what is more important with waxes is personal opinion of the nuance delivered, this will vary from person to person but the more people that do these tests, the more rounded a general opinion that can be formed.

Looking forward to the updates.
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How did the Sam Adams Irish Ale turn out?
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Isn't Smaragd a soft wax similar to the Z Concours?

I hate to bring up this topic but what is the difference between Smargd, BOS and Concorso?

I know Concorso is a hard wax but they say the formula is the same as BOS which is actually a softer wax like Z Concours. Where does the Smaragd fall amongst all of this?

Is Smaragd hard or soft?
Similar formula to BOS or totally different?

Can't wait to hear how they hold up.

I have some old Concorso that is green and soft but haven't had a chance to compare it to the new Concorso which is yellow and hard. I will do a post as soon as I have had time to compare the two. I suspect my old Concorso is probably the same or similar to either BOS or Smaragd. I know the formula needed to be changed after the lawsuit.
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The Irish Ale is very good. I was quite supprised for a Sam Adams. So much so I bought a couple sixers!

BOS is the same as Smaragd. Someone has a trademark on the term 'best of show' so SV renamed it.

Both waxes seemed on the hard side to me.

This morning, with a very low sun, I couldn't tell a difference between the two sides. We'll see!
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Default Update, first wash.

I washed the car for the first time since applying the waxes. The car lives in the garage at night, and is daily driven about 20 miles a day.

I won't tell you which side is which, I'll let you guess and comment on beading.

First pictures were taken after a couple rinses. Second pictures were taken after a wash with Adams soap, and a Megs lambs wool mit.

Overall


Side A before


Side B before


Side A after


Side B after


I will say that Side B shed water alot better than Side A.

Additionally, I still can't see a difference between the two sides. I can now see where I didn't put wax on.
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Nice feed back reefer_bob look forward to some more feed back

Thank you for taking the time to do this comparision
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