[Gemini13]

Outside of all that was mentioned it sounds like your car needs a paint decontamination wash like the Value Gard ABC or FK1 systems and probably good polishing. After that the Duragloss 501/105 combo or the FK1 2180/1000P combo would be what I would look into.

[bigpoppa]

I am sure there are people on LI here, if not, you could check Autopia.org in their regionals forum, there would definitely be someone in LI there.

I'm thinking that the paint has oxidation or contaminants on there that is just preventing the wax or sealer from bonding. Once this is cleaned up with clay or a paint cleaner, it should last fine (although you may have mentioned that being done already, sorry I didn't read through the whole post).

I would definitely have a well known pro look at it (someone from one of the detailing sites), they will tell you if it can be fixed or if it is a more serious problem, like paint failure.

[Trishydishy]

Originally Posted by Gemini13

Outside of all that was mentioned it sounds like your car needs a paint decontamination wash like the Value Gard ABC or FK1 systems and probably good polishing. After that the Duragloss 501/105 combo or the FK1 2180/1000P combo would be what I would look into.

Do you mind me asking if this stuff is harsh? I am scared that I am going to ruin the paint even more. Would I have to do this myself or do you know if some places use this that I'd be able to take the car too?

Do you really think this would clear up my issue? I am at a loss right now. I was thinking about checking into wetsanding the car but would that even make a difference?

Thanks for your help.

[Trishydishy]

Originally Posted by bigpoppa

I am sure there are people on LI here, if not, you could check Autopia.org in their regionals forum, there would definitely be someone in LI there.

I'm thinking that the paint has oxidation or contaminants on there that is just preventing the wax or sealer from bonding. Once this is cleaned up with clay or a paint cleaner, it should last fine (although you may have mentioned that being done already, sorry I didn't read through the whole post).

I would definitely have a well known pro look at it (someone from one of the detailing sites), they will tell you if it can be fixed or if it is a more serious problem, like paint failure.

I checked Autopia.org like you mentioned and it seems like there is only one company that details and when I read over what they do, it sounds like the same thing I just had done to my car. I get really scared if someone says to compound it again b/c in reality, who knows how thin my paint is right now.

Someone mentioned to use a paint decotamination system but I've never heard of this.

I know you mentioned in your last post about using clay or a paint cleaner and I've used both in the past and the wax still never sticks to the car. It does until it rains.

I plan on going back to the body shop who recommended my detail last time and show them how the car looks after 3 weeks. Maybe they can suggest something else. I really don't know.

Thank you for your help. I appreciate it.

[SuperBee364]

For a single stage paint, I'd do a base of a good glaze (RMG, GEPC, etc), then follow it up with Collinite 476. Remember when applying Collinite that you want it T H I N. Applying it too thick will make it hard to remove.

Oil based glazes really work well on single stage paints. IMHO, glaze/wax will keep your single stage paint looking better (and for a longer time) than a sealant will. Just an opinion...

[Duratys]

Can you explin your opinion in more detail superbee? Why does wax last longer than a sealant on SS than BC/CC?

[Trishydishy]

I actually just called the shop I take my car too get maintained at. They only work on Honda and Acura's. They explained to me that basically, after a Honda is 5 years old, they develop paint issues as mine has. He told me he also has a white accord and is having a lot of issues but has basically given up. He basically told me I would need to get the car painted again if I wanted to fix it. I am really starting to believe this but to pay $4k for a car that is a 2001, I don't think it's worth it. I am really starting to lose faith.

Maybe I will try the Collinite as mentioned in a prior post and if that doesn't work then I really don't know what else to do. I thought about the paint decontaminant stuff but I'm not really sure.

Thanks again for everyone's help.

[Trishydishy]

Originally Posted by SuperBee364

For a single stage paint, I'd do a base of a good glaze (RMG, GEPC, etc), then follow it up with Collinite 476. Remember when applying Collinite that you want it T H I N. Applying it too thick will make it hard to remove.

Oil based glazes really work well on single stage paints. IMHO, glaze/wax will keep your single stage paint looking better (and for a longer time) than a sealant will. Just an opinion...

Superbee, thanks for the advice. I think I am going to try this. Can you please tell me what RMG or GEPC is? I understand it's a glaze but what are the exact brands? Do you know for a fact that Collinite 476 will stick to an oil based glaze? I'd hate to do all this and then find out that the Collinite doesn't bond to the glaze. Also, where can I purchase the glaze from? Local store or online?

Oh yeah, one more question...since my car is already having issues with rain spots being stuck in the paint and a car wash won't remove it and, I just had it compounded and clayed 3 weeks ago, can I just wax over the paint the way it is after I wash it? Basically after washing it, the dirt will still be embedded in the paint. What do you suggest?

Thanks so much.

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[Gemini13]

Originally Posted by Trishydishy

Do you mind me asking if this stuff is harsh? I am scared that I am going to ruin the paint even more. Would I have to do this myself or do you know if some places use this that I'd be able to take the car too?

Do you really think this would clear up my issue? I am at a loss right now. I was thinking about checking into wetsanding the car but would that even make a difference?

Thanks for your help.

Finish Kare FK1 1119 / 883 Paint Decontamination System

[Charlies02GLS]

Phil is located in Englewood Cliffs NJ. He's also on this forum (among others) and is a terrific guy to deal with. I'd definitely think about setting up an inspection with him before taking it to a shop that insists the vehicle needs to be wetsanded to correct the defects or take the risk of getting it re-sprayed.

His username on this forum is "detailersdomain".