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Last Step Process/Protection In order to protect all your hard work and to keep your vehicle looking like new it’s important to know how to use a wax/sealant properly. Do you have a question about a wax or sealant? Do you have a unique way of applying wax? Feel free to post here.

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Old 05-14-2008, 11:34 PM
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ya it has nothing to do with engine heat. its just not buffing off well or applying too much.
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Old 05-14-2008, 11:35 PM
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I've found that a way to avoid this is by applying a thin layer, buff and then go buff with a cold water spritz a few hrs later. I like to use FG.
Forgot to mention that that works for me too. I keep the distilled water in the fridge. A bit of a "hybrid" technique is to spritz the water on the hazed wax before buffing, then again after buffing.

Wonder if the newer paint formulations are a contributing factor? I have this issue on my Porsche, so I know it's not engine heat I was thinking that it might be due to the fact that the hood is aluminum?

In any case, it's very frustrating
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this is the famous wax sweating. its caused when the wax starts to cure and harden, the oils evaporate to the top causing that hazy look. The cold water or qd helps remove the oils and well as level the wax giving it a great shine.

I have heard the reason only the higher end waxes do it is because they use oils instead of solvents to soften the wax. Sovlent evaporate no problem but oils require alittle more help.

a quick wipedown a few hours latr or a wash after a few days should solce the problem
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this is the famous wax sweating. its caused when the wax starts to cure and harden, the oils evaporate to the top causing that hazy look. The cold water or qd helps remove the oils and well as level the wax giving it a great shine.

I have heard the reason only the higher end waxes do it is because they use oils instead of solvents to soften the wax. Sovlent evaporate no problem but oils require alittle more help.

a quick wipedown a few hours latr or a wash after a few days should solce the problem
Ah, thanks for the insight
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I've had the same issue with some of the waxes that I've used. Best thing is to either let it sit for another hour, then wipe down or perpaps with a QD or some AW...
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Old 05-15-2008, 07:22 PM
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I was thinking that it might be due to the fact that the hood is aluminum?

In any case, it's very frustrating

hey you might be on to something...

seeing as the only part of my car that hazes is the hood, and my hood is the only part of my car that is aluminum....

you think guys?
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No, Have seen it on steel and composite also.
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this is the famous wax sweating. its caused when the wax starts to cure and harden, the oils evaporate to the top causing that hazy look. The cold water or qd helps remove the oils and well as level the wax giving it a great shine.

I have heard the reason only the higher end waxes do it is because they use oils instead of solvents to soften the wax. Sovlent evaporate no problem but oils require alittle more help.

a quick wipedown a few hours latr or a wash after a few days should solce the problem
Calgary got it right on. I have had the Vintage do this to me. Only problem is it usually happens after I drive it and it is in the sun but after driving it I cannot wipe it down until it is washed. One of the reasons I switched to Zaino years ago. I am playing around with QD'ing after waxing in hopes of eliminating it. I am also going to try to find a time when I can pull it out and bake it without getting too much dust on it.
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Old 05-21-2008, 03:33 AM
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Hazing (Wax / Polymer Sealant):
Smearing or a dull look to the paint film surface after removing residue usually occurs when there is an excess of product applied in high humidity conditions and moisture is trapped between the fast drying top layer and the lower layer of the hydroscopic wax.

The paint films surface temperature being cooler than the outside air accelerates this process by allowing the top layer of wax to harden before the lower level. To avoid this allow more time for the wax to completely set-up (dry) before removal.

Alternatively when the wax starts to set-up, the oils or solvents permeate to the top causing a hazy look. The solvents will outgas given time, but oil requires that you wipe them off. Spray the surface with cold distilled water, the excess wax will adhere to the water droplets and can then be wiped away with 100% cotton micro fibre towel. This has a two-fold effect; it removes the oils and will enhance the gloss of the wax.
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Old 05-21-2008, 10:07 AM
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A good description of the 'Sweating' phenomenon.However,to my knowledge the word'Hydroscopic' does not appear in any dictionary.

Carnauba wax is inherently 'Hygroscopic',in that it has a natural tendancy to retain moisture/oil(fatty acids),and then 'sweat' out the excess once the wax film has hardened.

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