[Bridges]

Do you guys select your wax based on the volume by it's percentage or you go with just feedback on it?

I have been looking at different waxes and can't help to wonder why some waxes don't list this info. Like CG's 50/50 or WG's Fuzion.

Does anyone know the wax volume for them? Could it be low and that's why they don't have it listed maybe?

[Rubbish Boy]

No, never buy a wax based on it's volume of carnauba. It means very little and you have no idea how brand A measure it compared to brand B. You're buying a finished product that performs in a certain way because of the whole recipe rather the actual wax content.

[HPIA4v2]

Originally Posted by Bridges

Do you guys select your wax based on the volume by it's percentage or you go with just feedback on it?

I have been looking at different waxes and can't help to wonder why some waxes don't list this info. Like CG's 50/50 or WG's Fuzion.

Does anyone know the wax volume for them? Could it be low and that's why they don't have it listed maybe?

I believe only higher end wax list the percentage also which kind (white or yellow nuba), not sure if it's marketing ploy on their part.

Car waxes reminds me of wine and speaker cables, so many subjective opinions going around. I try many of them and come back to the same mfg that I am comfortable with (both price and performance).

[FMINUS]

Originally Posted by Rubbish Boy

No, never buy a wax based on it's volume of carnauba. It means very little and you have no idea how brand A measure it compared to brand B. You're buying a finished product that performs in a certain way because of the whole recipe rather the actual wax content.

[Dave KG]

Originally Posted by Rubbish Boy

No, never buy a wax based on it's volume of carnauba. It means very little and you have no idea how brand A measure it compared to brand B. You're buying a finished product that performs in a certain way because of the whole recipe rather the actual wax content.

Spot on.

And the whole white and yellow carnuaba thing would seem to be tainted with marketing as well...

Only buy on performance on the product, and remember that as a wax, its not going to be delivering much (if ultimately any) to your final look - its there to protect it.

[togwt]

Originally Posted by Dave KG

Spot on.

And the whole white and yellow carnuaba thing would seem to be tainted with marketing as well...

Only buy on performance on the product, and remember that as a wax, its not going to be delivering much (if ultimately any) to your final look - its there to protect it.

I'll concede that a wax provides a mesure of protection, but if it adds nothing to the final 'look' why would so many show car detailer's use it over a polymer sealant?

Percentage of wax content- most carnaubas advertised with 50% or more Carnauba wax content is truly advertising a weight, not a volume. 30% by volume is about 50% by weight is about the maximum content (approx 35% Carnauba by volume makes it almost impossible to add/remove) that’s why you never can truly assess the amount of Carnauba in a manufactured wax unless the manufacturer specifically lists its content percentage by weight or volume. When making a comparison ensure you compare like with like i.e. % volume or % weight

Rubbish Boy's comments are spot on

[Cooter]

So does P21S 100% go by weight or volume or is the amount of carnuba wax 100% Carnuba wax?

Just more hype i suspect!

[togwt]

Originally Posted by Cooter

So does P21S 100% go by weight or volume or is the amount of carnuba wax 100% Carnuba wax?

Just more hype i suspect!

Absolutly

Quote: P21S 100% Carnauba Paste Wax Product.

I see you are referring to our new P21S 100% Carnauba Paste Wax Product.
What we make is a simple promise and it is written right on the package: "We guarantee the only kind of raw wax contained in this formulation to be Number 1 grade Brazilian carnauba from the copernica cerifera tree." Unfortunately consumers have been confused in that the final product (auto wax, or wax) is the same name as its key ingredient (raw wax). In a way it is like a cup of 100% Colombian Coffee. Fact is, 95%+ by weight is water! Here, you are correct that other ingredients are required to make a wax, namely oil(s) and solvent(s). Most manufacturers blend various raw waxes. So do we in our Concours-look Paste Wax which uses several waxes including Carnauba and Beeswax.

Our 100% Carnauba Paste Wax Product is quite different in this regard, containing only Carnauba as its raw wax component. If you start using the terms "raw wax" and "finished wax" you will surely do your readers a good service. Even then, however, it will be difficult to compare waxes based on absolute content of carnauba, as manufacturers typically do not tell you whether, say 40% is meant as 40% of the total finished wax or 40% of the raw wax content. In our case, we have done so more clearly (as per our guarantee above), though for proprietary reasons we cannot divulge this as a percentage of total finished wax".

Kind regards,
P21S Customer Service

[Dave KG]

Originally Posted by togwt

I'll concede that a wax provides a mesure of protection, but if it adds nothing to the final 'look' why would so many show car detailer's use it over a polymer sealant?

Personal choice perhaps? Better beading perhaps, as this is a wax quality? Following marketing hype surrounding LSPs perhaps?? Whole variety of reasons why one would choose specific LSPs...

I know I've started personally to move round to sealents as I personally cannot see any tangible additions to the looks from a wax, so I am using what is durable as that is ultimately what we use an LSP for... However, many will still want to use a wax for this purpose, but if I was to put a car in natural light with one wax, and one with another, would you be able to tell the difference? I suspect not... but its suspicion which is why I have organised a full-on LSP test to this end.

I stand by my original statement, wax (or any LSP) ultimately adds very little if anything tenable to the ultimate look of a well prepped finish. A subtle nuance perhaps, but significant differences - nope.

	LSP Last Step Product, meaning protection either wax or sealant.

[P1et]

Can I ask then what gives wax it's insane beading?