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Old 09-06-2008, 03:42 PM
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I feel like I have no choice here guys... I've tried Z-8 (just to dip my toe in the water) and it looks incredible

I'm about one beer away from pulling the trigger on some Z-2 pro & Z-6, and maybe some ZFX and Z-5 pro.

How necessary is this ZFX stuff? Do I absolutely have to use it?

I'd appreciate some opinions on the Z-5 also... Do I need this to see the full effect?

What about Z-AIO? Should I be thinking about this too???

If it helps, I'll be using it on a dark metallic red 2008 Santa Fe Ltd.
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Old 09-06-2008, 05:48 PM
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I'm about one beer away from pulling the trigger on some Z-2 pro & Z-6, and maybe some ZFX and Z-5 pro.

How necessary is this ZFX stuff? Do I absolutely have to use it?
You don't have to have it, it depends on if you want to use more than one coat (many Zaino users like to) and if you want to avoid the 12 hour waiting period to apply a new coat that ZFX allows you to avoid.

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I'd appreciate some opinions on the Z-5 also... Do I need this to see the full effect?

What about Z-AIO? Should I be thinking about this too???

If it helps, I'll be using it on a dark metallic red 2008 Santa Fe Ltd.

On a dark metallic Red Santa Fe I almost wonder if Z-5 should be used rather than Z-2? Z-5 is generally advertised a being used on darker colored cars and Z-2 on lighter colored cars. Some people swear by Z-AIO others say if you prep the paint well enough you don't need it, I have never used Z-AIO so I don't know the answer to that question.
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Go for it, you won't be dissapointed.

You do not need ZFX if you use Z-AIO first as your base coat and you do not plan on layering the Z5p or Z2p on the same day.

The Z5p/Z8 combo is unbelievable, you will be even more amazed.

I like Z6 to prep the finish for Z5p after I wash it. Then I will apply a coat of Z5p and follow up with Z8 and the car always looks amazing.
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I feel like I have no choice here guys... I've tried Z-8 (just to dip my toe in the water) and it looks incredible

I'm about one beer away from pulling the trigger on some Z-2 pro & Z-6, and maybe some ZFX and Z-5 pro.

How necessary is this ZFX stuff? Do I absolutely have to use it?

I'd appreciate some opinions on the Z-5 also... Do I need this to see the full effect?

What about Z-AIO? Should I be thinking about this too???

If it helps, I'll be using it on a dark metallic red 2008 Santa Fe Ltd.
Wow, you are really getting serious Kenny1775. It sounds like you knew what you were talking about the whole time. Or was it the Good thing these guys chimmed in because I'm 1 past knowing everything there is to know about everything.
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Old 09-06-2008, 07:00 PM
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Z8 is incredible there is nothing like it.
After Z5 pro I use ZCS then Z8.

To me Z5 pro is a very underated product. I find the looks to be fantastic and to some degree with muliple applications in can hide some inperfections. You already know the durability can't be beat.

I alway use ZFX when using either Z2 pro or Z5 pro. Do you absolutely need it maybe not. But I feel they cure better and durability and looks are enhanced with ZFX. For $20 you can't go wrong.

I would get Z5pro, ZFX and ZCS since you already have Z8. Also I love ZPC polish.
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I have ZAIO and Z2PRO (after polishing, no ZFX w/the Z2) on a black Bimmer X3 right now, at a little over one month and three washings the beading is still very intense (on par with or better than Collinite) and it looks great. I know it hasn't been on for long, I'll really be interested to see it at 3+ months.

I've used the same combo on an X5 and did not get results that were as nice, however, my prep was different on that (106ff on X5, OP and FPII on the X3 with an IPA wipe after polishing and before ZAIO). I'm guessing maybe the 106 polishing oils interfered with bonding.
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As far as the ZFX goes I would say its one of Zainos plus points of being able to get 3 good coats of say Z2 on in the same day.
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Thanks for all the input guys, I can feel myself being warmly welcomed into the cult of Zaino

If my ability to read between the lines is working, I sense that Z-5 may be worth trying by itself before buying Z-2. The ZFX would be nice if I want to kill a Sunday with a marathon "layering party", but the AIO would be a good multi-function alternative. The Z-6 is essential, so I will definitely be getting that (I'm addicted to qd's, this will be my 14th).

ok, so now I'm looking at Z-5, ZAIO & Z-6.

I've heard that Z-5 isn't really that much of a swirl hider (I welcome and request any objections to this statement that are based on experience). Is the AIO any better at filling/removing minor swirling, or should I be considering the ZPC also?
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Wow, you are really getting serious Kenny1775. It sounds like you knew what you were talking about the whole time. Or was it the Good thing these guys chimmed in because I'm 1 past knowing everything there is to know about everything.
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I've heard that Z-5 isn't really that much of a swirl hider
Do you own a random orbital or a rotary? If so, I would recommend compounding those swirls out and then polishing the compounding haze before going with Z-AIO and Z5.

As far as hiding paint marring, Z-5 does it to a limited degree. I am told it takes about 3 layers before you notice a difference, hence the benefit of ZFX.
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