[agentf1]

I found this thread very interesting and since there are so many Vintage users over here I figured I would post a link to it incase you haven't already seen it.

I am not sure which product suprises me more with the comparisons being so close.

Zymöl Vintage vs. Zaino side by side test - Detailing World

[Calgarydetail]

read through the whole post, his intial obsevations are changed once he waxes the whole car... im not saying which bis better or its a false test or whatever crap others say, however the tone changes at some point in the thread... worth reading it all

[Woob]

Originally Posted by Calgarydetail

read through the whole post, his intial obsevations are changed once he waxes the whole car... im not saying which bis better or its a false test or whatever crap others say, however the tone changes at some point in the thread... worth reading it all

Waste of time, just tell us... shesh!

[Calgarydetail]

Originally Posted by Woob

Waste of time, just tell us... shesh!

to be honest i havent read that thread ina few months, i dont feel ike reading it again either... i do however remeber reading it all and if i remeber correctly he latter states that when he does the whole car it has a tottaly difrent look then the zaino, or the small pannel he did.. he latter seems to be impressed with vintage... I belive this is the same thread

[matrix_808]

i agree with Calgary, you cant just do a half and half and expect to see a difference, you see the REAL difference when you do 1 or more panels, not half panels.

[agentf1]

This topic is really not worth arguing over as both products seem to be at the top of their repspected game and I would be happy to have either one as my LSP.

Here is one of the last post where it is summer up by a few of the users. No matter what it is pretty impressive for both products IMHO.



Quote:
Originally Posted by GlynRS2
A lot of luck. I was on here one day and someone put it up in the personal sales section

As far as an update goes, the Zaino just kept on looking good. In the end I was itching to do a full Vintage treatment, which I posted up here:
http://www.detailingworld.co.uk/foru...ad.php?t=29400
Since then the Vintage finish has also lasted well. Initially I found it did tend to be more prone to dulling between washes, but now I have found that by using Z8 after a wash it just keeps its sparkle.
The Vintage is a very special wax and in just detailed form does seem to have a very slight edge on Zaino - but only just and the price difference is huge. However, if you use the Zaino your car will be looking good for more of the time, strangely even when dirty! Z8 is a very special product, not cheap but the best quick detailer spray that I have come across and it seems to work easily as well over the Vintage as Zaino. It does work out cheaper and better value than Zym0l Field Glaze though, which would be the regular top up for Vintage.
I am surprised that more people don't use Zaino. I know that some people have had trouble with it being fussy with weather conditions when being applied and then reacting strangely with some Snow Foam products, but when it works it is fantastic. I always apply it indoors in the garage where it is warm and dry and have never had any problems. I know a lot of people rave about Jetseal 109, I have this and it is a very good product, but frankly it is not in the same league as Zaino when it comes to finish in my opinion. Of course all of this are my personal findings on my own car and what you use on your own vehicles or detailing others is entirely up to you. As with a lot of people I am always trying to find the perfect product to give the perfect finish. At present I would say that these two are pretty much neck and neck at the top of my list - the Vintage shading it for finish by the thinnest of margins and the Zaino doing the same with durability. All I need now is to get hold of a sample of Royale


Neils's reply to GlynRS2
Glyn, you just summarised my findings after having Vintage on the car for a few weeks.

If you could summarise Zaino vs ***** Vintage in percent terms of finish and say Zaino was 95% with Vintage 100%, I find that after 2 days, the Vintage has dipped to say 80%, but the Zaino is resisting more dirt so looks superior at say 90%.

I will most certainly try the Z8 over the Vintage because as you say, it looks absolutely fantastic when washed and I can see that slight advantage over a Zaino finish (gloss and depth for me).

	LSP Last Step Product, meaning protection either wax or sealant.

[Todd]

I think the thread supplies the following....

Even at 1800 dollars, Vintage doesn't blow any product out of the water. Even with the huge price, you have to do the whole car (at which point you can no longer make a comparision because the human mind will alter memory to support current belief) to notice a slight difference. So even though Vintage (my favorite wax, btw) is 9000% percent more expensive, it doesn't produce enough difference for people to take note over a five month old sealant.

It is only when the whole car is done that a difference may be precived. Pyscology will tell you that based on the recall-theory, no difference likely exists.

I have said and continue to say that Zaino is the best sealant on the market hands down, and at 20 (or so) dollars for a bottle, it is impressive that at 5 months, even people at a detailing get together couldn't tell the difference. (Well one in five did, I believe the other four choose 5 month old Zaino as the better).

Also, I have the upmost respect for the detailer's across the Atlantic as they seem least interested in brand name and loyality and more interested in the honest result. I rarely see product bias in any of thier write-ups and personally think that they set the standard when it comes to detailing.

In the end, if using one product over another makes you feel better, then it is worth the price, period.

[sneek]

Originally Posted by Todd

In the end, if using one product over another makes you feel better, then it is worth the price, period.

ding ding ding ding

Use what gives you the results you want. It can cost two, twenty or two-thousand, but if you can justify the cost..thats all that matters.