[Todd]

Originally Posted by Calgarydetail

who cares.. you done go to dinner and ask what it costs them to make it.. i know your not knocking it.. im just saying. We all ask how much it costs them blah blah blah.. but we dont ask that in any other industry,.. most done buy a car and go i wonder how much it costs.. wow ther ripping me off.. we just go there ripping me off lol....

and ytou buy a 30k wax for its image and prestige....

Good point Calgary, but the devil's advocate would say (me)

When ever extreme mark up is included, I think its normal to ask why. Most waxes, in a label, with a containor are going to range from 1.50 out the door to 5.00 out the door, product and manufactoring cost. Obviously if you make less of the product, you rates will increase, but not dramatically.

Given that the glass or crystal contaioners could possibly cost as much as 500 to 1000 dollars, you have an out the door cost of probably not any more then 1005 dollars. When you have a mark up of 28K for prestige and image, it is normal to question the whole thought process.

One person might say that they would buy a 335 over a G37, because its a bimmer has more prestige. Magazines debate which car is better, most say the 335 is slightly better, but the G37 is a better bang for the buck. However, at least with your car, people see you in it, driving around. With a 30K wax on your car, nobody (except you is going to know the difference) and when you tell people you spent 30k on a wax, the last thing people are going to think is that's presitgious. Most people are going to think, "A sucker is born every minute."

Not that any of this matters. The forumulations in waxes are so similar that pretty much a lot of what we use is the same. There is no magic, super expensive ingredient that makes Solaris so expensive, and given the precise way that companies blend their waxes, there is not really any manufacturing process that is going to make it better on that end. So we can discuss this all day, but the point is, if spending money on a 30K wax makes you feel good about it, then do it.

[Calgarydetail]

Western culture is a very money based, image based, materialistic society. Im sure we can both agree on that.
We buy tons of stuff to show we are higher up on the social scale. Even those who say they dont do. If you really did not care you would take the bus or carpool. you dont "need" a car but we all still have them.. it makes life easier, but we also assosiate with that we drive.

Im sure you get the question all the time, what do you drive?

We do the same thing with desginer clothes. I could make arguments about why they fir better and so on. However it comes down to image.

And with that image we are treated diffrently

A good example is when I was at a friends house. We were driking, my friends mother comes down (as loaded as we where) and starts talking to us.. we get the ussual what do your parents do. I told her my dad was a vp... she takes my plastic cup out of my hand and brings me a crytal glass... here husband goes.. wtf im not even aloud to look at those. the wife (mother) says wel he knows the finner things.....

First I am not rich, not yet anyway. I live a conforatble life, but with ky dads income and 4kids we are not tich... ok back on topic.

whats the point? image is everything. So wax is no diffrent. a $30K wax is about image. Heck even pauls new wax is about image, but thats what his customers want.

I can easily justify the 2k wax.. heck i have had it 3 months and it has gone back to be refilled. I might even be bale to justify 8K....
can I justify 30k for wax? nope but that dosent mean someone else can.

Its about image yes, we pay through the teeth for image (clothes, houses, cars, stylists, teeth witheing, ect ect ect) why is wax any diffrent?

I agree it dosnet cost all that much to make, but it does make the owner look "good"

[Nica]

What image, so your saying my rust bucket Jeep is sending the wrong image darn and here I was going for studd muffin hahahahahahaha

But all joking a side yes, it's all about image...sad to say it but it's true

[Calgarydetail]

Originally Posted by Nica

What image, so your saying my rust bucket Jeep is sending the wrong image darn and here I was going for studd muffin hahahahahahaha

lets just say its a good thing your married

[Nica]

Originally Posted by Calgarydetail

lets just say its a good thing your married

Aint that the truth if I wasent married I would have purhased Solaris in a heart beat hahahahahahaha sometimes being married is a good thing

[agentf1]

I am sorry but, if I had 30g for paint improvement I think I would go out and get a $29,800 paint job which would look better with nothing on it than what any priced wax could do and then spend the remaining 200 bucks on my LSP. And I would be willing to bet my car would look better than anybody elses with the 30k wax, of course providing they did not spend 30k for their paint job on top of the wax.

	LSP Last Step Product, meaning protection either wax or sealant.

[Todd]

Originally Posted by Calgarydetail

Western culture is a very money based, image based, materialistic society. Im sure we can both agree on that.
We buy tons of stuff to show we are higher up on the social scale. Even those who say they dont do. If you really did not care you would take the bus or carpool. you dont "need" a car but we all still have them.. it makes life easier, but we also assosiate with that we drive.

Im sure you get the question all the time, what do you drive?

We do the same thing with desginer clothes. I could make arguments about why they fir better and so on. However it comes down to image.

And with that image we are treated diffrently

A good example is when I was at a friends house. We were driking, my friends mother comes down (as loaded as we where) and starts talking to us.. we get the ussual what do your parents do. I told her my dad was a vp... she takes my plastic cup out of my hand and brings me a crytal glass... here husband goes.. wtf im not even aloud to look at those. the wife (mother) says wel he knows the finner things.....

First I am not rich, not yet anyway. I live a conforatble life, but with ky dads income and 4kids we are not tich... ok back on topic.

whats the point? image is everything. So wax is no diffrent. a $30K wax is about image. Heck even pauls new wax is about image, but thats what his customers want.

I can easily justify the 2k wax.. heck i have had it 3 months and it has gone back to be refilled. I might even be bale to justify 8K....
can I justify 30k for wax? nope but that dosent mean someone else can.

Its about image yes, we pay through the teeth for image (clothes, houses, cars, stylists, teeth witheing, ect ect ect) why is wax any diffrent?

I agree it dosnet cost all that much to make, but it does make the owner look "good"

Well shit, I can't even reply. Your thoughts are logical and well thought out, and I agree with every point.

[Nica]

Originally Posted by Todd

Well shit, I can't even reply. Your thoughts are logical and well thought out, and I agree with every point.

Oh boooo I was liking where it was going come on Todd dig deep buddy you can do it

But you both bring very good points

[jake_b]

so in conclusion, we all just drool about this wax.. for now.. we'll see who gets the wax first and see the result...

Guys, tonight..i will buy the NY Mega Lotto.. tomorrow i'll buy the Solaris.. the next day, i'll send you a sample.. bwahahaha....if i win of course.

[pirex]

Love your posts guys! Very nice points from both of you!

Hell, I loved driving my Audi S6 with a loudy V8 and pepole turning head! But know I feel just as nice in my vw Caddy. LOL. Why? Because of my MYSTERY! haha