[P1et]

So how do you enter the competition? Do you just post a Show 'n Shine and you're in?

[Deep Gloss Auto Salon]

Originally Posted by P1et

So how do you enter the competition? Do you just post a Show 'n Shine and you're in?

here ya go buddy

Originally Posted by Nica

If you'd like to enter the Monthly Competition you have to enter it on the Monthly Competition Forum and not on the Show and Shine. Now you can enter the competition any time you wish but remember that only one detail can enter. However, you can post all your details on the Show and Shine section and you can enter any of your details at any time to the Monthly Competition section. Like I said in order to qualify for the competition you have to post on the Monthly Competition Forum, if it's not there you wont enter the competition. Now for the Monthly Competition only one detail can be entered so if you have say three vehicles you detailed in that particular month choose the one you feel is the best one and post it in the Monthly Completion section.

[Nica]

Originally Posted by Scott's Mobile Detailing

i think anyone should be able to post, i am 19 and detail part time, but have my own business, does this make me pro?...i think there is to much cofusion with that, the way i look at it is, giving away free prizes will make the unexperinced detailers work harder, and try diffrent things to win, this will make them a better detailer.

Well yes and no Scott. Here is my rationality on this. Now you detail part time and own your own detailing business that doesn’t mean your automatically a professional, I mean from a customers perspective you will be viewed as a professional but it doesn’t mean you are. Now don’t take offense because I’m not trying to be disrespectful at all. But we all remember a certain member at AG that said this "people pay me for my details therefore, I'm a pro" Well I'm sure we all agree that just because you get paid to “detail” that dosen’t automatically make you a pro. The thing is that if you own your own business and detail on a regular basis (pastime or full time) your skills are going to be much superior compared to a person who's just starting off on detailing. So to me it's not fair to have lets say your details competing with some one that is just posting there first detail ever. Well at least that's what I'm thinking, I do agree that members will look at other detailers that have more experience and learn from them, heck I know I did when I first started detailing but I think it’s good to have two different competitions because of the two different skill levels. Well let me know what you’re thoughts are, I’d like to hear more.

Originally Posted by D&D Auto Detailing

Alright, hold on a second. You defined a pro detailer as someone who earns a living doing this, so someone that does this full time. Im not a pro, you arent a pro, doesnt Phil have another job? That wouldnt make him a pro either.

D&D I'll answer your questions/concerns by breaking it appart. I agree with you on this paraphaf. I didn't say that Phil was a pro and that's why he's more then welcome to post his detail on the Monthly Competition lol I just went rambling on about what I was thinking lol.

Originally Posted by D&D Auto Detailing

What about people posting BS details? We all know pictures dont really show anything, especially the way people take the pictures. I mean you could wash a car, take pictures of it under the halogens. Say you did a 3 step polish on it, even wet sanded it, then topped it off with Mystery. There has to be some kind of extremely strict outline of how to write this up and take pictures of it.

Well I agree with Wolf, there has to be a certain level of trust but if they do cheat weather it's editing there pictures or lying on there process, meaning they add steps that they actually don't do they will be withdrawn from the competition and will not be able to compete. Now I did say that they have to post a full detail explenation as to the products they used and well to be honest I'm expecting all memebers that post in the competitions to be honorable and honest. Also like Wolf said the people that are going to be judging are no stranger to details and know what too look for, so I'm confortable on trusting people.

Oh one thing to note guys if you wish to post on the Pro competition you have to subscribe to it, meaning that if you consider your self to be a pro you will have to pay for the tittle, there are extra features that come with the upgrade and that's why it's geared up more for those that do this for a living. Take a look at the subscription you'll see what I mean. Here is a link http://www.detailingbliss.com/forum/payments.php

	AG AutoGlym

[Scott's Mobile Detailing]

Ya i totaly understand, i was kinda hinting in my last post that i wasnt a pro, lol, but i understand that i have alot more skills than someone that is just starting, so that still wouldnt be fair to some one that is just starting. Now a few things, i donno if you can do this, but set up a running poll for the next week or 2 weeks. That way you get a real time answer. Ask the question, should the contest be split up between pros and weekend warriors...answers are "yes" and "no"....just a suggestion. There is just to much confusion of pros and non pros. But i think at least making a poll will give you a true understanding on what people really want. let me know what you think man, this debate could go on for ever lol...good luck

[Scott's Mobile Detailing]

but i see what your saying about the title of a pro, and having to pay, i think that will help

[D&D Auto Detailing]

Yeah, I agree.

[Nica]

Yea sorry I think I should have explained a bit more about the "Pro" title and how to get it. The pro section and competition will only be availble to those that choose to pay for it.

I think this helps and I should have brought it up earlier but I hope it helps to distinguish the two..what do you guys think?

[Scott's Mobile Detailing]

hahah ya that deff helps

[Scott's Mobile Detailing]

so whens the comp. start?

[D&D Auto Detailing]

Originally Posted by Nica

Yea sorry I think I should have explained a bit more about the "Pro" title and how to get it. The pro section and competition will only be availble to those that choose to pay for it.

I think this helps and I should have brought it up earlier but I hope it helps to distinguish the two..what do you guys think?

What will the difference be?