[trhland]

saturday i decided to give my truck a nice bath before waxing. it was filthy!! so i decided to pure 2 ounces of optimums soap to a bucket along with a few gulps of p21s total auto wash to give me a squeky clean surface before waxing. i washed then dryed with micro then blew with leaf blower. that left some water spots but i fiqured no problem the wax will take them out . well no!!! they dryed like concrete on the paint .waxing didnt remove the tiny spots and theres was also a film on the crome bumper too. so i had to use a paint cleaner along with wax!!!! so what was suposed to be a nice relaxing waxing turned into a full blown cleaner and wax!!!! my water is very hard wear i live i quess mixed with a degresser didnt help but made it worse!! not to bash this its a great degresser. did i use to much? should i have gone over the whole truck after drying with a q/d before waxing? thnks guys


tom

[Nica]

Oooh that's strange, that's never happend to me......mind you I always use the CR system when washing so I'm sure that makes a difference....um...just curious was it hot and sunny outside when you washed the vehicle? Just wondering that's all.

[Calgarydetail]

when using TAW as a soap you really need to rinse well. It dosent rinse the same way as soap. I hae found a presure washer works better at getting the residue off compared to the flood meathod.

i would try rinseing for longer or rinseing with a power washer.....

[trhland]

i think you may be right. i just did a quicl rinse perhaps i should have rinsed alot longer thanks guys!! and yes it was hot even in the shade. when i washed it.

[bryansbestwax]

Washing outside is a pain, I know I do a lot of it. I find that rinsing and rinsing and keeping the car wet until you dry will give you less spots. Sometimes it is innevitable, black iks the worst. It heats up like a mother in the sun. Paint cleansing is the only way to make sure.

[Joyriide1113]

Try not to use a blower to dry a car that has hard water on it, even if its in the shade. I've tried doing that before and I still get water spots the same as I would if I had let them sit on the paint outside. The only time I would use a blower to dry would be on wheels or cracks after I had dried with a WW.

[Al-53]

trhland...you may want to try the DG water spot remover...works very well at removing spots..and LSP safe...

also sometimes mixing products make a whole new item ..it can be good..or be bad...lol....

hard water is a bitch to work with,,I have 2 wells and one is hard water....I have a rechargable DI system and i make water to use to rinse with...

butlike I said the DG water spot remover works nice ...I use it also when I run out of DI water...lol....or lazy to make more...

AL

	LSP Last Step Product, meaning protection either wax or sealant.

[joep]

Tom,
i had the same experience with wash and gloss soap..i washed on a semi warm day and slightly warm panels ...my car was full of water spots un-like any soap i've used and just like you i had to polish out the hood,roof , 2rear quater panels,and the trunk panel..

[supercharged]

If your truck is pretty dirty and you are planning on rewaxing - Megs NXT will work well. And it's available locally.

[trhland]

you guys rule!!!!!! thanks everyone who responded .. great info!!! reall opened up my eyes to try different methods next time. thanks!!!!


tom